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I searched E-Bay for a set and wound up at this forum, so I had to chime in as well.Ok, I am the guy that bought them from Otasco back in the 70's and installed them in my 72 Olds Cutlass Supreme (Rocket 350). I think the problem lies in trying to compare them to 21st century audio technology. That would be like comparing World Book Encyclopedia to Google.Yes you can get specific results that compare but that's it.But in the 70's there was OK audio equipment such as amps, graphic equalizers, Pioneer, Jensen, etc. Which bring up the MindBlowers.Yes they were cheap and over powered- try to find a set today and you'll know why they aren't around.But before BTO Not Fragile- Rolling Down the Highway guitar rifts destroyed mine, they served a. good purpose such as turning heads (Like today's bass), getting disturbing the peace warnings, and a good time with the Bud's which is what is trying to be done by the Yute's of today. My memory is still pretty good and the Mindblowers were good and especially loud speakers- for 6 months to a year of high power usage.
Today we could fill up the whole auto with audio components but back then a set of speakers like these for cheap did the job.Since I mostly listen to Talk Radio all I need now is a good set of Kicker's. Dragon Breath makes a good point about the music source of those days.
Definitely a very weak link for 12V audio.As far as amplification, I suspect there's plenty of 30 year old amps (or older) that would sound just the same as anything today. The technology to make a flat playing low (at least inaudibly low) distortion amp is very old at this point. There's even some rather antiquated speakers that hold their own quite nicely.That all said, some of these nostalgia guys really need to check out the state of the art. There simply is no way 70's stuff is better by any measure beyond efficiency, but these days power is super cheap and loudspeakers have evolved to take advantage of this.This thread gets necro'd about once or twice a year so if anybody ever sees them or buys some they'll probably wind up here.I had an early 1964 VW Microbus with a TUBE radio!! Click it on and wait a sec while it warms up! Of course it was not great sound, but still. I thought the tubes were cool!And I 'grew up' with my father's Macintosh 20 watt MONO tube power amp and a Macintosh tube preamp too, and Pickering phono cartridge on a turntable driving it into a 15' Altec Lansing Studio Monitor speaker in a furniture cabinet!
It ROCKED!!:-)John Kuthe.John Kuthe. I had a set of Tenna Mind Blowers, with a Pioneer Super Tuner in my 67 Plymouth.They were great for the day, and incredibly loud, BUT.They in no way compare to the Systems that are installed now days, not even most small systems.Now dont get me wrong, I hate the attitude that some people have about older stuff. I owned two pair and a buddy of mine had a pair I bought them for $44 at a store called Zaire in Pompano Beach Florida in 1978 or 79. I remember when the company was going bankrupt and someone else bought them out and I called him up and he told me that he was the the new owner.
As has been noted in my recent threads here I have gotten hooked on searching the local thrifts for vintage equipment.As I find different speakers out there I run across speaker brands I am unfamiliar with such as the RTR's I now own but I am often hesitant to buy them because I don't recognize the brand or model. So the question is what vintage speakers would you want or recommend on the oft chance I stumble across a pair?BTW- They would I guess have to be 8 Ohm speakers since that is what my recievers are.
As has been noted in my recent threads here I have gotten hooked on searching the local thrifts for vintage equipment.As I find different speakers out there I run across speaker brands I am unfamiliar with such as the RTR's I now own but I am often hesitant to buy them because I don't recognize the brand or model. So the question is what vintage speakers would you want or recommend on the oft chance I stumble across a pair?BTW- They would I guess have to be 8 Ohm speakers since that is what my recievers are.Vintage speakers, hmmm, here are few '70's models from the mid-range price range. I rememberAR 9s Inefficient so it required a lot of power but nice.Dahlquist DQ10s Also inefficient but easy to find replacement parts.I've seen some Magneplanars in estate sales. They don't last too long and most require some level of refurbishment-Especially true if previous owners had cats!I find a lot of Bose 901s in estate sales and Thrift stores.These are not my cup of tea, HOWEVER, they are easy to rebuild and then resell for a tidy profit. They usually end up in estate sales because they are in need of care.
And they usually sell for around $50-100 for the pair. After spending $60 on a rebuild kit, I resold my last pair for $550 at the online auction. That pair was on its way to the garbage bin when the previous owner was unsuccessful selling them at a garage sale so I acquired them for FREE. As has been noted in my recent threads here I have gotten hooked on searching the local thrifts for vintage equipment.As I find different speakers out there I run across speaker brands I am unfamiliar with such as the RTR's I now own but I am often hesitant to buy them because I don't recognize the brand or model. So the question is what vintage speakers would you want or recommend on the oft chance I stumble across a pair?BTW- They would I guess have to be 8 Ohm speakers since that is what my recievers are.pioneer hpm's 40,60, 100.
150,ar3, ar4,an some of the other ones that have responed to your thread. As has been noted in my recent threads here I have gotten hooked on searching the local thrifts for vintage equipment.As I find different speakers out there I run across speaker brands I am unfamiliar with such as the RTR's I now own but I am often hesitant to buy them because I don't recognize the brand or model. So the question is what vintage speakers would you want or recommend on the oft chance I stumble across a pair?BTW- They would I guess have to be 8 Ohm speakers since that is what my recievers are.Wharfdale, model 80 or 90. They are rather heavy since they're filled with sand. Manufactured in the 60's. Wharfdale, model 80 or 90.
They are rather heavy since they're filled with sand. Manufactured in the 60's.Odd you mention those because I found a pair of very heavy speakers at a local thriftthat as I moved them to see what the brand might be it almost sounded like sand sliding but I just figured it was just the sound of the speaker moving against the carpet.
These speakers had no markings on them other than the horn at the top said Speakerlab.Could these be Wharfdales? There was absolutely no markings on the speakers but they were nice solid wood cabinets and I thought they were possible someone's DIY from a way back. The only other distinguishing feature was on the top of the speaker there was a gold colored inlay on each side.
Odd you mention those because I found a pair of very heavy speakers at a local thriftthat as I moved them to see what the brand might be it almost sounded like sand sliding but I just figured it was just the sound of the speaker moving against the carpet. These speakers had no markings on them other than the horn at the top said Speakerlab.Could these be Wharfdales? There was absolutely no markings on the speakers but they were nice solid wood cabinets and I thought they were possible someone's DIY from a way back. The only other distinguishing feature was on the top of the speaker there was a gold colored inlay on each side.Speakerlab in the late 70's sold a wide array of speaker kits and drivers.
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They could be a Speakerlab kit or a Wharfdale with a Speakerlab repalcemant driver. I do think if they were Wharfdale they would be labeled.
Interesting coincidence: I was browsing this post to find what old school speakers people were metioning and the first one I see mentioned are RTR speakers. Having owned a pair of these since the mid 70's, they continue to serve well, even having survived the many stereo wars valiantly fought in college. I have the xpr 12's and yes, they are 8 ohms. They were certainly not mainstream speaker as this is the first time I have heard or read of them since I bought mine.
A few things they were noted for besides delivering an incredible bang for the buck were solid wood enclosures and nice hi, crisp tweeters. They even have an adjustable crossover and a 'reset' button should they be wired out of phase or exposed to to an amp that was turned distorting. Great speakers. Some great speakers have been mentioned in these posts! The early DCM Time Windows were one of the speaker pairs I wish I had never sold. I currently own a pair of DCM TimeFrame 250s and would have to find some money if a pair of the originals Time Windows appeared locally (the guy who has my original pair will never let them go!)The Dahlquist DQ-10 speakers can be wonderful if they have been recapped and are driven with an amp that can throw a lot of current.
I was driving one of my two pair with a Pioneer SX-1010 (110 watts per Ch) and they sounded pretty good, but they really showed what they could do when they were powered by my big Krell amp.I am somewhat surprised that no-one has mentioned some of the classic Altec horn boxes. They are not my cup of tea but do have many fans out there.